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- 1990-09-16 ( check for other copies)
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- GratefulDead
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- DeadLists Project
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Hell In A Bucket, Cold Rain & Snow, Little Red Rooster, Stagger Lee, Queen Jane Approximately, Tennessee Jed, Cassidy, Deal Samson & Delilah-> Iko Iko-> Looks Like Rain, He's Gone-> Jam*-> Drums-> Jam-> Standing On the Moon-> Jam-> I Need A Miracle, Morning Dew, E: It's All Over Now Baby Blue
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MAD> D> CD; Recorded by Dave Brotman; Seeded to etree by Darrin Sacks; also to abgd via Charlie Connor
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- 2004-04-03 12:21:37
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- gd90-09-16.schoeps-fob.sacks.9435.sbeok.shnf
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- New York, NY
- Numeric_id
- 11844
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- 2
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- MAD> D> CD>WAV>SHN
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- sound
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- Madison Square Garden
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- 1990
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Reviewer:
Lt. Trips
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September 24, 2021
Subject: Sotm
Subject: Sotm
Not sure why Standing on the Moon isn’t getting the attention here. The band is going a wee bit fast at first and Jerry starts pulling back on those
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strings hard to reign the boys in. His voice settles in after a few bars and suits the song perfect. I’ll point to this track right here as to why I love the Dead. Hornsby hangs out until the end and then starts jamming away pushing Jerry higher and higher as his guitar literally drips after the impassioned “I want to be with you” vamp. Watch the video that circulates from MSG. I skip through a lot of this show on a casual listen. But this particular Sotm is magic. Going 5 Stars bc not just any show can have a cut on your stranded island music list.
Reviewer:
JamsOnly
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November 18, 2012
Subject: 9/16/90
Subject: 9/16/90
Highlights: Deal, He's Gone>Jam. It was nice to hear some experimental jamming going on in several songs.
Reviewer:
Joshua_me
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September 17, 2011
Subject: Nothing's Gonna Bring Him Back....
Subject: Nothing's Gonna Bring Him Back....
Of the 88 shows I was lucky enough to see between March of '88 and March of '93, this was - all in all - probably the best show I ever saw. The setlist
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on paper does it NO justice. It may sound crazy to some, but THIS show was Brent's funeral show. The depth, breadth, and meaning of this show cannot be expressed in words. It was *stunning".
And I say that as not as some newcomer who saw his first good show on acid, this one was something special.
MUCH better copies circulate than the official "Dick's Picks" version of this show, and you owe it to yourself to track one down.
In the the midst of a fantastic 6 show run at The Garden in '90, they snuck this one in. It's gorgeous, terrifying, and hopeful all at the same time.
You know that "dark place" where the Miami '89 Dark Star show came from ? That energy is here as well, along with a promise for a brighter future, (which sadly never really came true...)
You want to know what The Dead was all about ? Find yourself a GREAT sounding copy of this show.
(The "Dicks Picks" version AIN'T it...)
Almost 22 years later, and I still haven't fully recovered from it....
You need to look no further than this site to find the copy you need.
Enjoy, and hang on tight to the one you love.
And I say that as not as some newcomer who saw his first good show on acid, this one was something special.
MUCH better copies circulate than the official "Dick's Picks" version of this show, and you owe it to yourself to track one down.
In the the midst of a fantastic 6 show run at The Garden in '90, they snuck this one in. It's gorgeous, terrifying, and hopeful all at the same time.
You know that "dark place" where the Miami '89 Dark Star show came from ? That energy is here as well, along with a promise for a brighter future, (which sadly never really came true...)
You want to know what The Dead was all about ? Find yourself a GREAT sounding copy of this show.
(The "Dicks Picks" version AIN'T it...)
Almost 22 years later, and I still haven't fully recovered from it....
You need to look no further than this site to find the copy you need.
Enjoy, and hang on tight to the one you love.
Reviewer:
imissJG
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August 29, 2010
Subject: Best of the MSG`s this run.....
Subject: Best of the MSG`s this run.....
First of all...Great Recording!!...1st set...Double openers are great!!!..."Hell in a Bucket"and"Cold,Rain and Snow,"was a good way to open anynight!It
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seems to keep the crowd buzzin` on that"crazy,weird,gitty energy,"that overwhelms us all,just as Jerry strapped on"Bolt"and walks out,tuning and teasing us with the opener,as we start the guessing game on what`ll it be...("i used to love that feeling...i still do.")...Nothin`much after that though,"Stagger" and"Queen J."are good...And"Rooster"...IMO,they could`ve never played that tune and I would`ve probably been better off..= just don`t like it!!...2nd set opens with a"S&D/IKO"combo...two real upbeat,lively..."songs you just need to shake the bonez to!"...Then Bobby slowed it up a bit with,"LL Rain,"only to be followed by a Jerry ballad,"He`s Gone."..and oh,how sweet it was....OkAy,post D/S,let`s face it,many of us danced our asses off many a night at many a venue,our energy/love meter would be off the charts.Just so we could only,finally...cry our eyes out as Jerry plays his late set ballad.On this particular evening,it was my fav.,"SOTM."SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TUNE JUST TOUCHES PARTS OF MY FEELINGS THAT i would never had known exisisted,if not for Jerry and his magic.Also,"Miracle,"as heard on numerous other occasions,followed...after a great mix to those two songs,"Lunatic Preserve."...(*eg.Check out 10/5/94,Spectrum---"D/S-->Lunatic>SOTM>Miracle"...and this is pure listening enjoyment!).......Then,to wind it all up,"Dew" and E."Baby Blue.".....You gotta love the good ole`Grateful Dead!...nobody did,does or ever will play with as much heart,love,energy,truth and desire to put smiles on the peoples faces,that would go to world`s end to hear/see them play.They changed everything about me,..and i`m forever grateful for that........We Love You Jerry,and I`d"rather be with YOU!"
Reviewer:
Billy Sunday
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July 4, 2009
Subject: Good Show, Unluckey W/Ushers
Subject: Good Show, Unluckey W/Ushers
Yhis was My 1st show at the Knick. I remember a really relaxed and appreciative community around the Knick, TV crews and Kind Police outside. However our
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seats weren't great and up against a huge post that partally blocked view. OK- looking about I saw plenty of people in aisles dancing so thought I'ld do the same as we had end seats. No Luck- we got the ONE security person HELL_BENT on not letting anything go on the least bit not allowed. She chased us back to our seats many times and threatened to eject us. Fortunately security must have been shifted during the break, as we had no problems the second set.
Good show, pretty standard for the time. Seeing the Morning Dew it reminded me of my last GD concert, which was at the Knick-one of only a couple of summer inside shows. Anyway this resulted in my seeing/hearing the Last Morning Dew ever with Jerry there before the music stopped in '95. Bittersweet.
This is a well recorded show and the boys were pretty "On" that night. Show gets a 4 for recording and musicianship, 5 for the memories, 1 for the security woman during the 1st set.Fare Thee Well all.
Good show, pretty standard for the time. Seeing the Morning Dew it reminded me of my last GD concert, which was at the Knick-one of only a couple of summer inside shows. Anyway this resulted in my seeing/hearing the Last Morning Dew ever with Jerry there before the music stopped in '95. Bittersweet.
This is a well recorded show and the boys were pretty "On" that night. Show gets a 4 for recording and musicianship, 5 for the memories, 1 for the security woman during the 1st set.Fare Thee Well all.
Reviewer:
cringle
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October 25, 2008
Subject: Holy Cripes
Subject: Holy Cripes
Wow...
Post-Modern Classic.
Post-Modern Classic.
Reviewer:
Evan S. Hunt
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August 4, 2007
Subject: Pretty Damn Good For An Aud
Subject: Pretty Damn Good For An Aud
I have to admit this is damn good. You may want to EQ a little to accentuate the positive. Sometimes there is too much encroaching audience chatter and
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it is mildly, momentarily annoying.
All in all this was a GREAT show. The performance is juiced. Billy, Mickey, Brucey, Vinny, Bobby and Jerry are all solid. From a video I have seen of a few songs from this show it looked like they were having a real good time.
But the real star of this show is Phil. he is just ALL OVER IT. I don't think I have heard such a bass response on an audience tape before. He is spectacular. You can hear every nuance of his playing like the gurgle of how his fingers slide over the frets. Healy really had this show dialed-in P.A. wise. Phil had just begun to use an Aural Exciter device on his setup and he used it until the end of 1991. It is impressive. I never tire of this sound. I wish he still used the effect in his modern day ensemble.
Jerry's vocals are a tad low in Healy's mix. Vince has been chastised for going pedal to the metal, but it wasn't really his fault. He should have been lowered in the mix, but Healy wasn't paying attention. Vince gets annoyingly loud in certain places, but his playing is rather spirited.
The jams and space are something extraordinary. Jerry has wonderful moments with Vince and Bruce. Check out the stellar piano chording on Dew ~ it is otherworldly! Interesting moments with Bobby and with Phil with the keyboardists on various bits of dreamy space.
Every song is good. Even the drum solos are great. Stagger, Deal, SOTM, Dew ~ all great.
5 for performance, 4 for recording. I have to give it an overall 5. This is a very special and underrated show. If they'd played the Dark Star on this night it would have gotten all the raves as the best show of the run, but actually, all of the shows of this run are ones worthy of writing home about.
I always wonder why GDP picked this show for DP 9 since it doesn't get the kudos. But I think I know why. It is the exemplary show from that epic run. And, of course, this one is my favorite.
All in all this was a GREAT show. The performance is juiced. Billy, Mickey, Brucey, Vinny, Bobby and Jerry are all solid. From a video I have seen of a few songs from this show it looked like they were having a real good time.
But the real star of this show is Phil. he is just ALL OVER IT. I don't think I have heard such a bass response on an audience tape before. He is spectacular. You can hear every nuance of his playing like the gurgle of how his fingers slide over the frets. Healy really had this show dialed-in P.A. wise. Phil had just begun to use an Aural Exciter device on his setup and he used it until the end of 1991. It is impressive. I never tire of this sound. I wish he still used the effect in his modern day ensemble.
Jerry's vocals are a tad low in Healy's mix. Vince has been chastised for going pedal to the metal, but it wasn't really his fault. He should have been lowered in the mix, but Healy wasn't paying attention. Vince gets annoyingly loud in certain places, but his playing is rather spirited.
The jams and space are something extraordinary. Jerry has wonderful moments with Vince and Bruce. Check out the stellar piano chording on Dew ~ it is otherworldly! Interesting moments with Bobby and with Phil with the keyboardists on various bits of dreamy space.
Every song is good. Even the drum solos are great. Stagger, Deal, SOTM, Dew ~ all great.
5 for performance, 4 for recording. I have to give it an overall 5. This is a very special and underrated show. If they'd played the Dark Star on this night it would have gotten all the raves as the best show of the run, but actually, all of the shows of this run are ones worthy of writing home about.
I always wonder why GDP picked this show for DP 9 since it doesn't get the kudos. But I think I know why. It is the exemplary show from that epic run. And, of course, this one is my favorite.
Reviewer:
youngbuck
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April 3, 2006
Subject: waves of people
Subject: waves of people
I ate a quarter sheet of what I thought was either fake or weak paper. It was neither.
Great show. Some dude flipped out in the upper deck (jerry's side). ... He jumped over a railing and fell 15-20 feet flat on his back. We all thought he was dead. Security started heading his way and somebody tapped him on the shoulder. He got up, glanced at the security guards and walked away.
My rating is based on the show (and the paper I suppose), not the quality of the recording.
Great show. Some dude flipped out in the upper deck (jerry's side). ... He jumped over a railing and fell 15-20 feet flat on his back. We all thought he was dead. Security started heading his way and somebody tapped him on the shoulder. He got up, glanced at the security guards and walked away.
My rating is based on the show (and the paper I suppose), not the quality of the recording.
Reviewer:
hrmn5681
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February 28, 2006
Subject: Download this show
Subject: Download this show
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NOt only is this a Dick's Picks, 9 to be exact, but this is by far one of the best AUD's on here. One of my favorite Standing On The Moon's, Great Dew.
Reviewer:
Peacefuljon
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December 3, 2005 (edited)
Subject: add some aud to your collection
Subject: add some aud to your collection
The dead pulled the SDB's. so what you wont find better audience tapes anywhere. Sometimes sdb are flat, spiritless, and aud's can have that certain warmth
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that really brings back that feeling of being at the show, Play it loud....
I love all of the MSG shows, Pure Garcia, Hornsby adds a touch of 70's, Vince being new at the time played his best. Sometimes not knowing a song is better. Peace to all
I'm glad that they let us have the audience recordings....
I love all of the MSG shows, Pure Garcia, Hornsby adds a touch of 70's, Vince being new at the time played his best. Sometimes not knowing a song is better. Peace to all
I'm glad that they let us have the audience recordings....
Reviewer:
unbrobenchain???mighthavejustbroke
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November 29, 2005 (edited)
Subject: "." Nonintuitive
Subject: "." Nonintuitive
"." Nonintuitive
Reviewer:
direwolf0701
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November 21, 2005
Subject: nothin
Subject: nothin
hey dmilks and pat - tito was permanently banned from posting on this site - I (previously direwolf2003) was guilty of egging him on and subsequently apologized
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to the curators and ceased my childing activity. Tito wouldn't stop and got the denver boot.
and yes, the post drums is great - good recording too.
and yes, the post drums is great - good recording too.
Reviewer:
patkelley
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November 21, 2005 (edited)
Subject: this is good but....
Subject: this is good but....
Wow, Tito better hope that he's right about the guy he was talking about, because that's what lawyers call per se defamation. Although Tito is probably
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a dickhead in real life, he's right about the post drums portion- really nice even for this seminal year. If Tito has some money (which is doubtful to me), I'd sue him. Unless those two are friends joking around, that's a pretty egregious act.
Reviewer:
dmilks
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November 21, 2005 (edited)
Subject: 9-16-90
Subject: 9-16-90
Thanks for the heads up DireWolf0701.
Great backstretch!! 3 of the 4 songs post space are Jerry tunes. Very Cool. Overall, a very listenable and enjoyable ... sounding AUD.
Great backstretch!! 3 of the 4 songs post space are Jerry tunes. Very Cool. Overall, a very listenable and enjoyable ... sounding AUD.
Reviewer:
lobster12
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April 5, 2005
Subject: second set
Subject: second set
whewwwww. The second set of this one is hot. Without a doubt gets the band going for what would be a magical run. The no MSG jam as Dicks picks calls it
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is a monster
Reviewer:
direwolf2003
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March 24, 2005 (edited)
Subject: yo tito
Subject: yo tito
lmao - c'mon play nice man (lol)
Reviewer:
bomberholds
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March 10, 2005
Subject: he's gone
Subject: he's gone
1st nyc he's gone after brent, amazing. could be the longest he's gone i saw. very special. this whole run was sick.
Reviewer:
Tito&Smokey
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February 3, 2005 (edited)
Subject: Post drums was sick
Subject: Post drums was sick
i dont really rate first sets..im not a big Bob Queer fan..All the Killer Bob songs are Really Jerry songs because of the guitar(LL Rain,Samson,Estimated)The
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Pre-drums was average but the Post drums was the sheeeaaaaaaatttt!!!!!!standing>Miracle>Dew.Baby blue is the best post Drums you will hear in all of the nineties.i will rate this a 4.Yes,i would rather see JGB than this the dead crap with Phil and Bob queer
P.S.-I know this guy "Dire wolf2003".We were friends,until we all found out that he was arrested in 1997 In Gary,IND for feverishly masturbating in his filth strewn car in front of a pre-school.He is a registered sex offender and i can PROVE it.(e-mail me for proof).So please dont read or listen to anything he says.Hes a sick fuck.
P.S.-I know this guy "Dire wolf2003".We were friends,until we all found out that he was arrested in 1997 In Gary,IND for feverishly masturbating in his filth strewn car in front of a pre-school.He is a registered sex offender and i can PROVE it.(e-mail me for proof).So please dont read or listen to anything he says.Hes a sick fuck.
Reviewer:
Teaklee
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May 25, 2004
Subject: The Hornsby / Welnick turning point.
Subject: The Hornsby / Welnick turning point.
Well Well, the band had been cruising along with Welnick in the hotseat, and after a dud during the 15th, the boys reach back and bust out the show we
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were waiting for. I think that it was the Red Rooster when the fire was kindled, and it didn't die out till '92. Now we knew what the potential was for this line up. The second set was full of pleasent suprises and smoking versions. The Jam out of He's Gone, the Phil and Keys jam, was simply beautiful. Hornsby was iching to jam. D/S standing on the moon nice..but what was that??... a sick open jam into Miracle WHOA. And then the bomb...Morning Dew...WOW!! Phil crunches the ending buildup jam! The boys gave us something to behold, a day off, and then the next three night were legendary!!! Listen to this Audiance version, I'm sure it's OK, and then go buy the Dicks Picks that features this masterpiece. Thanks Archive!!!
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